“We can impact a student’s entire adult life based on the words we say and the value of the knowledge we impart.”
Oli
– on being a careers advisor to young autistic students and how his journey led him to help others find their path.
When did you first know or start to think you were autistic?
I was 11 years old when I was diagnosed. I found this really tricky and almost felt that on the page was this script that I was required to follow for the rest of my life. I was told lots of things that I can’t do and won’t be able to do, which just frustrated me further.
What inspired you to become a careers advisor?
Bad careers advice! I received a small amount of vague advice from someone at my school. They told me not to aim too high, as autistic people don’t have to work, and said: “It’s okay for you to not work and maybe just aim for some volunteering.”
After I left school, I bounced between different roles. I worked in nurseries because I’d always been told I was good with kids, but then I took 30 under two-year-olds to a local zoo, really struggled with the sensory environment of the job and handed my notice in on the same day.
It wasn’t until going to a Job Centre Employability course that I realised I wanted to help other people find work and never be in the position I have been in. I volunteered for six months and begged them each week to take me as an apprentice to become a careers advisor.
I now work for Outcomes First Group, supporting The Greater Horseshoe School and its other independent schools across the south of the country in careers advice and management.
"One of my previous managers influenced my career direction and my ability to think positively about my autism diagnosis, as he recognised and supported the strengths I have rather than the difficulties."
What were your experiences like at school?
Not brilliant, I always felt like a problem and that my autism was a problem, too. I spent most of my education either overwhelmed or isolated. Because of my sensory difficulties, I found the classroom an intimidating and overwhelming space, so I behaved in a way that removed me from that space.
It wasn’t until starting my current job working with autistic individuals that I realised that was why I behaved in the way I did. I wasn’t coping, and instead of supporting me to identify why and put measures in place, my school removed ‘the problem’.
Once you left school, what was the working environment like for you?
Tricky to start with until I learned how to explain my challenges to people and identify when something was or was not working. One of my previous managers understood me very well and helped me express this to other people. He influenced my career direction and my ability to think positively about my autism diagnosis, as he recognised and supported the strengths I have rather than the difficulties.
How have your own experiences helped you to engage young autistic people in your role?
I think it is a positive thing in two parts. Firstly, I feel like I can empathise with my students more than other staff members who have never been in their shoes – it allows me an honesty that other staff struggle with. Secondly, it gives the young people I work with a role model, an individual with similar difficulties and strengths who is succeeding and feels positively about autism as a whole.
What impact have you seen when autistic pupils receive aspirational careers education?
It is a night and day difference. When our students arrive at school, they are often terrified of the future and actively avoid lessons and topics that discuss it. Once they buy into the careers education we provide, the switch is tangible and exciting.
Suddenly, the future isn’t a big, scary and intimidating place. It is an opportunity to excel, be passionate, enjoy and look forward to. We can impact a student’s entire adult life based on the words we say and the value of the knowledge we impart.
You clearly have a lot of passion and expertise. How do you think careers advisors in mainstream schools can work more effectively with autistic pupils?
They need to slow down, learn to build trust first and support individuals in an honest and supportive manner instead of using careers advice sessions as a tick-box exercise or an afterthought.
Careers education and advice should be the fundamental core of all aspects of education rather than an assembly and a 45-minute advice session once a year. Each young person needs support in understanding what the working world is before they can identify where in that world they would aspire to be involved in.
"Seek advice from someone you trust and find your own path. Success is different for each individual and isn’t a linear path."
What advice would you give to younger or out of work autistic people who feel like they don’t know what to do?
That they are doing okay! It is perfectly valid for them to not know what they want to do and that, sometimes, we just have to stop for a moment, refuel and reflect before starting to move on again. Take the time to look at what parts of other jobs or education that you really enjoyed.
Find that skill, and then look around at different jobs that encompass that skill. Try it! If it works and you enjoy it, then that is amazing, but if it doesn’t work, then you have still learned something from that experience. Seek advice from someone you trust and find your own path. Success is different for each individual and isn’t a linear path.
Reflecting on your own journey, how have things changed for you personally and professionally?
I think the largest lesson I have learned in the last ten years is to create boundaries and then stick to them, whether this is in work, education, relationships, family or hobbies. I am still learning this! The biggest lesson has been how to communicate and compromise effectively with employers and people about where my boundaries are.
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